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Interview of Governor Yannis Stournaras to Global Finance Magazine and to Tiziana Barghini

04/10/2021 - Articles & Interviews

  1. What is the economic outlook for Greece in the coming 12 months? What is the main risk?

     

    Economic activity in Greece is projected to rebound strongly in the coming quarters. A milder-than-expected recession in the first quarter of 2021 and incoming data for the second quarter make us even more optimistic than before. The recovery is mainly driven by pent-up demand, the launch of projects under the National Recovery and Resilience Plan and a significant increase in tourism receipts relative to 2020. On the fiscal front, a substantial primary deficit is expected in 2021, which will be reversed next year due to the withdrawal of the bulk of the fiscal stimulus package. The biggest risk for the coming quarters remains the evolution of the pandemic at the national and global level. Although the vaccination programme is well on track, the spread of the virus mutations is a source of uncertainty. 

     

  2. How strong is the banking sector and how is lending available to businesses?

     

    Over the past few years, the financial fundamentals of Greek banks improved significantly. Compared to March 2016, the stock of non-performing loans (NPLs) was reduced by more than 50%, mostly through securitizations with the use of the Hellenic Asset Protection Scheme. Banks managed to eliminate their reliance on the Emergency Liquidity Assistance and regained access to the wholesale markets, issuing senior unsecured notes and capital instruments. Two systemic banks also managed to tap the capital markets and executed successful share capital increases in 2021. Currently, banks enjoy adequate liquidity and capital buffers that can allow them to provide lending to the real economy. Still, the NPL ratio remains the highest in the Eurozone and is an impediment to credit expansion, especially to small businesses where the credit risk is higher. According to the banks’ business plans, the positive macroeconomic outlook and the financing opportunities stemming from the Recovery and Resilience Facility could significantly boost credit growth in the coming years.

     

  3. Did the health crisis change the economy in a permanent way? Is there something that should prompt the central banks to change their policies?

     

    The pandemic has led to a temporary slowdown of the potential growth rate of the economy but support measures taken by both fiscal and monetary authorities should mitigate long-term scarring effects. In particular, the NGEU initiative, aiming at financing large-scale investment projects in areas such as greening the economy and digital transformation is expected to improve the long-term growth potential of the economy.

     

    Regarding monetary policy, my view is that our stance at the ECB is still appropriate.  We have learned from experience that patience is needed to avoid premature policy adjustments. Under current circumstances, a persistently accommodative monetary policy stance is necessary in order to meet our medium-term inflation target of two percent. In fact, in our new monetary policy strategy and revised forward guidance, we have made explicit that our commitment to avoid a premature tightening may imply temporary periods of above target inflation. Once the economy shifts to a solid recovery and there are definite signs of a rise in inflation to its target on a durable basis, then we should proceed at a gradual adjustment, applying flexibly the tools at our disposal.

     

     

     

  4. What is the economic outlook for Europe overall?

     

    The growth rebound for the EU and the euro area is expected to be strong in 2021 and 2022, due to pent-up demand, substantial additional fiscal stimulus partly channeled through the Next Generation EU instrument, and higher foreign demand supported by the recent fiscal policy packages in the US. GDP is projected to return to its pre-crisis level at the end of 2021 in both the EU and the euro area as a whole, masking, however, a significantly uneven pace of recovery across Member States. The rise in inflation this year is expected to be largely transitory due to pandemic related supply side bottlenecks and central banks should look through this temporary jump in inflation. Clear communication on the outlook for monetary policy will be critical to shaping inflation expectations and safeguarding against premature tightening of financial conditions. Uncertainty and risks surrounding the growth outlook remain high but overall balanced. The epidemiological situation, geopolitical tensions possibly resulting in irregular migration inflows, the effects of climate change and private and public debt dynamics raise concerns and require continued vigilance.

     

  5. What keeps you awake at night?

The present crisis was different than the previous one almost thirteen years ago, due to the more proper stance of monetary policy and, particularly, fiscal policy.

At the same time, Greece has overcome many of its problems, which had led to the 2010 sovereign debt crisis. Nevertheless, two issues may be of some concern. First, the final impact of the pandemic to the banking system. Obligors in vulnerable sectors could suffer after the complete phase-out of the support measures, whereas the rising interconnection between the sovereign and the banks is worrisome. These risks to financial stability add to existing ones such as the effect of the low interest rate environment to banks, and to others that gain rapidly importance in the risk heat map, such as the climate change related risks.

Second, the steep rise in the public debt ratio makes the economy vulnerable to new negative external shocks. Temporary measures should be extended if needed to avoid cliff-edge effects but there is no room for a relaxation of the longer-term primary surplus targets, so that the financing needs for the coming decade remain manageable.

 

Related link: https://www.gfmag.com/magazine/october-2021/greece-central-bank-yannis-stournaras-interview

 

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